Russia claims the massacre of civilians in Bucha, Ukraine, are a hoax or conspiracy designed to frame its forces.
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In these wars between “presidents” there are always peoples in the middle, that’s why war doesn’t make sense.

Don’t use cringe sources like business insider, we are supposed to be better than this

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…But if its pro-Invasion twitter is ok right?

the primary sources on business insider is far more untrustworthy

Doesn’t c/WorldNews forbid posting from tabloid sites?

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Wow the same ones who are saying its real are checks notes using the same tactics to continue to say its real. Just checked the apparent source, but they give absolutely nothing, just saying they found it, nothing else, not even audio.

Business insider on communist website

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well, source:

The radio transmissions were obtained by the Bundesnachrichtendienst, Germany’s foreign intelligence service, and presented to parliament on Wednesday.

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But where’s the video? A transcript?

So German CIA. That’s even worse

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Why is that?

Intelligence organizations have an agenda. Look into operation northwoods, in which the DOD planned for the CIA to stage false flag terrorist attacks on their own people and blame it on Cuba

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And what does your little example have to do with the German intelligance??

CIA controls such things, has since the cold war

They are isomorphic

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You still don’t understand the concept of being on a federated website it seems. What you said makes as much sense as “XYZ on a communist email”.

This post was made by a user from mander.xyz (AFAIK not communist), to a community on lemmy.ml (not openly communist either) and you accessed it from lemmygrad.ml (a Stalinist instance that isn’t communist either, but lets not have a discussion on that ;) ).

Ok so instead would you want me to tell you your source sucks and provides no information outside of claims w/ no evidence? Most of the outside information they give are behind paywalls lol

Oh, this is ridiculous… @Kulun hasn’t posted on mander.xys, an instance focused on natural science, but rather on WorldNews. He is just using another instance to post proNATO content.

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I’m new to lemmy, what’s the problem?

Apparently you’re not meeting their ideological purity standard.

You might be new to lemmy but that doesn’t excuse you from being proNATO

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That’s an allegation. Either way, I am able to respect your world view, that’s the difference between you and me I guess.

You do not respect it, you just barely care about politics and use it to have useless debates

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Thanks for your very useful contribution.

The people on lemmygrad are 10x more communist than the western liberals claiming the term these days that eat up everything the US empire has to say about socialist countries and use words like “Stalinism”.

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The point is not to make sense, it’s to make a frivolous low effort claim. It’s kind of like the liars dividend, because it’s a lot easier to be lazy and say something that’s wrong, than it is to put in the effort to correct the wrong thing that was said.

The liar’s dividend is about demanding something obviously true be proved to the satisfaction of an unreasonably skeptical person which requires all kinds of effort above and beyond what we normally require to establish day to day beliefs.

This is a little bit different. It could be called the trolls dividend. The goal isn’t really to refute the article, which can take a lot of effort, it’s to kind of split the difference with low effort trolling. Much more efficient.

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