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U.S. Army Lieutenant General Roger L. Cloutier has allegedly been captured by Russian forces in Mariupol.
The Elensky regime sent two helicopters in a second attempt to rescue individuals among the remaining trapped Ukraine Army and Azov. Both were shot down before they could land. It is rumored that many NATO military officials are among the trapped combatants.
It is unlikely that there will ever be a public video showing him captured or anything conclusively proving such. It is highly embarrassing for the US if it actually occurred and they would undoubtedly offer additional concessions to keep it officially secret.
If they negotiate for his release they could easily have him back in Turkey and have him appear on TV very quickly. It seems like they can successfully prevent the rumor spreading long enough for them to negotiate for his release, assuming he is alive.
However, since no conclusive deboonking has happened so far, it is too late to definitively deboonk it since any subsequent videos would not prove he was never in captivity.
Later rumors have appeared including that
1 - he is dead
2 - he is still trapped among the Azov
In addition to that, various Ukrainian government officials have claimed success in a helicopter mission. This is very unlikely to have actually happened, but it could either be a fake for morale boosting or alternately cover for NATO paying a ransom or whatever concessions demanded.
I hope the Russians do something like force this to appear in western journals or else,so the people is forced to see the reality of the situation, how they have been lied to again and again.
If he was, they’d be parading him around by now, and not trying to conceal news about him. He was either captured, or is possibly missing for some other reason.
based off of a phone call where he makes this statement. but definite proof doesn’t exist and phone calls and metadata are pretty easy to forge for a service
We will most likely never see definitive evidence on this issue but IMO the mass bans on social media plus lack of an official US government denial would suggest the story is true.
His social media accounts apparently made a post claiming that he was in Turkey and that is the sole public evidence to the contrary. In this situation a social media post is not proof of anything since the US government could easily seize his accounts.
The two suicide mission helicopter rescues by the Elenssky regime also are suggestive that there are important individuals trapped in Mariupol.
Yeah their evidence is not very convincing unless someone can corroborate that the event where he was photographed took place on the day they claim it did and in Turkey like they say but I don’t know how to verify that. It’s especially dumb considering that this is pretty easy to refute but NATO have provided the minimum viable evidence.
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I would wait a bit before spreading any of this information. It is unconfirmed and nothing but a claim atm.
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These images are repeatedly posted with the rumours. I am not Surinder Puri.
It is unlikely that there will ever be a public video showing him captured or anything conclusively proving such. It is highly embarrassing for the US if it actually occurred and they would undoubtedly offer additional concessions to keep it officially secret.
If they negotiate for his release they could easily have him back in Turkey and have him appear on TV very quickly. It seems like they can successfully prevent the rumor spreading long enough for them to negotiate for his release, assuming he is alive.
However, since no conclusive deboonking has happened so far, it is too late to definitively deboonk it since any subsequent videos would not prove he was never in captivity.
Later rumors have appeared including that 1 - he is dead 2 - he is still trapped among the Azov
In addition to that, various Ukrainian government officials have claimed success in a helicopter mission. This is very unlikely to have actually happened, but it could either be a fake for morale boosting or alternately cover for NATO paying a ransom or whatever concessions demanded.
Where’s the link to the source?
They are mostly articles which describe the existence of the rumor, which appears to be widespread on Russian social media.
Southfront also mentioned the rumors and IMO this is strongly suggestive that it is true.
Do not open or run accounts on these sites. period. they are evil
I hope the Russians do something like force this to appear in western journals or else,so the people is forced to see the reality of the situation, how they have been lied to again and again.
I’ve read he was in Turkey all along so this might not be true.
If he was, they’d be parading him around by now, and not trying to conceal news about him. He was either captured, or is possibly missing for some other reason.
based off of a phone call where he makes this statement. but definite proof doesn’t exist and phone calls and metadata are pretty easy to forge for a service
We will most likely never see definitive evidence on this issue but IMO the mass bans on social media plus lack of an official US government denial would suggest the story is true.
His social media accounts apparently made a post claiming that he was in Turkey and that is the sole public evidence to the contrary. In this situation a social media post is not proof of anything since the US government could easily seize his accounts.
The two suicide mission helicopter rescues by the Elenssky regime also are suggestive that there are important individuals trapped in Mariupol.
I figure that social media sites wouldn’t ban anyone who talks of this if it weren’t true.
Yeah their evidence is not very convincing unless someone can corroborate that the event where he was photographed took place on the day they claim it did and in Turkey like they say but I don’t know how to verify that. It’s especially dumb considering that this is pretty easy to refute but NATO have provided the minimum viable evidence.
The posts depicted meetings of various military people and they would have been told what to say.
Too late now for them to deboonk it definitively. He may resurface on TV later but that would not prove he was not captured.
This story will live on as an amusing and highly plausible rumor on social media.