I want to record my screen while I talk, but I would like to distort my voice like they do in the anonymous videos, to retain my anonymity. How can I do that? I’d rather not use a TTS engine as it would be difficult to synchronize the sound with the video of the screen. I just want to distort my voice enough so that people close to me couldn’t tell it’s me, assuming they aren’t experts and manage to reverse the voice distortion. And how do I share the video online without leaking my IP?

And, in a not so private way, what about real time streaming? I’ve seen a person who changed his voice and image so that it seemed as if Rocket from Guardians of the Galaxy was talking to you.

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It depends who you’re trying to hide from, and what their capabilities are.

Here is a way that Tor or VPNs can fail you, even if you’re only trying to hide from an adversary much weaker than the NSA/GCHQ/etc.

Suppose you simply want to hide your identity from your university (or perhaps a fellow student who works in the IT department there) when you upload a video from your dorm room - eg, using the university’s network. So, you use Tor or a VPN to upload to a peertube instance. For the sake of this scenario, lets say that the university is unable to convince the peertube instance operator to tell them the IP address where the video was uploaded from, so they don’t even know that Tor or a VPN was used. How could the university deanonymize you?

By linking two pieces of information that they do have access to:

  1. They’ve seen the video, so they know its approximate filesize and they know the approximate time it was uploaded.

  2. They also most likely are retaining netflow data for all connections on their network.

Netflow data is the number of bytes sent and received for each TCP or UDP 4-tuple (source and destination IP address and port number) in every time interval. The time resolution might be as high as sub-second or could be as low as 1 minute. But, even if it is very low resolution (like 1 minute), you’re probably the only person on the network who sent the approximate amount of data at the approximate time.

Thinking about the above scenario might help you mentally model what you would need to do to resist stronger adversaries. An easy way to defeat the university adversary would be to not upload the video using their network. If you’re considering a state level adversary, you can’t really do that - they could be keeping netflow data (or even “full-take” - the content of all packets) at any ISP, and we know that they are at many (see XKeyscore, Tempora, etc).

You could use some public wifi, but, where? Is there a CCTV camera at that cafe? Did you bring your phone, which is sharing your location with various advertising companies? Did you leave your phone at home, but suspiciously turned it off for the first time in a long time during the very hour the video was uploaded?

Even for a single anonymous video publication, this is an extremely hard problem if you want to consider state-level adversaries. To maintain anonymity over time while continuing to publish under a persistent pseudonym is even harder. There are no easy answers. Hopefully the scenario above will help you in your threat modeling :)

You must delete metadata from the file too.

CHEF-KOCH
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Anonymous, and people who make Anon videos use a voice synthesizer (like Hawking, Siri, etc) so that there is no human fingerprint to it, but fsociety videos from Mr. Robot use human voices. YouTube has some guides that will show you how to do similar effects with Audacity. Just YouTube search for “audacity voice distortion.”

Voice changer can be cracked once you know the used algorithm, I am mention it in case you try to do some shady stuff.

As for the question to avoid leaking your IP, normal VPN will do.

Tor is a better way to hide your IP than a VPN (unless Tor exit nodes are blocked by the service you’re connecting to)

CHEF-KOCH
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Better by what standards. Because you say so, nope. VPN is more than enough for this purpose, even Proxy will do unless the server side connection is not HTTPS.

Most VPNs cost money and are drowned in dishonest marketing. Yes, Tor is slower but for an upload that’s not an isssue because you don’t do it constantly and it’s not time-sensitive

Because you say so, nope

Would you mind not putting words in my mouth?

CHEF-KOCH
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ProtonVPN for example works without any money, it is a free VPN, same like CalyxVPN, so you do not get to decide what is - best - because there is no best. We are not having a debate about Tor Vs. VPN here, for his purposes a VPN, even Proxy will do, as said. Nothing to argue here. Just inform yourself better.

Then you must carefully choose your VPN and blindfully trust that they’re not logging anything about you.

Jesse
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…and blindfully trust that they’re not logging anything about you.

Isn’t that exactly what you are doing when using TOR? Those nodes can be compromised just as anything else can.

No Tor node knows both the origin and destination of traffic. The system was carefully designed to ensure this, so no, it’s not comparable at all.

Jesse
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I’m not saying you’re wrong because I’m not a security professional, but a nation state actor or other adversary is likely to watch an entry node, in which case, there is little you can do because they can (and historically have) attach payloads to your traffic. Here is a really good article on the matter, but it’s over 5-years old at this point: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4x3qnj/how-the-nsa-or-anyone-else-can-crack-tors-anonymity

Tor isn’t invincible but it’s much more difficult to track than a simple proxy or VPN because an adversary who compromises your proxy server or VPN can immediately see both the source and destination of your traffic, whereas traffic on Tor is routed through 3 different intermedaries, and not the same ones each time. Even if an attacker controlled your entry node, that wouldn’t tell them where your traffic is going or what it is. The attack described in that article requires the attacker to control both your destination and your entry node, and even then requires statistical analysis and for the victim to download a large file. I’m not aware of any anonymity system that makes tracking harder than Tor does, without requiring a trusted server operator.

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