What kind of mediation would work? Doesn’t the Russian government just want to take control of Ukraine? If it’s “just” demilitarized (not puppet leader put in place) then the pro Russian separatists governments could seize power on the whole country.
I would get that the Russian speakers region could need independence if the central government discriminates them. But Russia doesn’t need to invade the whole country for this.
Please go watch John Mearsheimer’s talk that after this conflict has gone from 4M to 17M views. It will reverse a lot of brainrot the media has fed to you and everyone around you.
Russian government has never said they want to take control of Ukraine. What they want is Ukraine to be a neutral country that doesn’t join NATO. They’ve literally been asking for that for the past 8 years.
By USA…? In short, it seems the people opposed the pro-Russian goverment and wanted a closer ties to EU instead. If that’s not something free people can do, what are the alternatives? If sovereignty is something to be worried about, why are you not criticizing Belarus or Russia? There people doesn’t even seem to have any options for opposing the government.
And does invading neighbour countries with direct war work any better…? Using the identical logic based on what you said earlier, we could assume the sovereignty of Ukraine was taken away by Russia on 2010 :)
You are intentionally immoral and dishonest. Probably if your country gets invaded and colonised for a couple centuries, that will start putting some sense into Westerners like you. Mine was, and now another has indirect proxy colonisation.
Oh, our country has a long history about those events.
I’m not trying to be immoral or dishonest, or even rude. Just pointing out that there are more than one side to the story.
What kind of mediation would work? Doesn’t the Russian government just want to take control of Ukraine? If it’s “just” demilitarized (not puppet leader put in place) then the pro Russian separatists governments could seize power on the whole country.
I would get that the Russian speakers region could need independence if the central government discriminates them. But Russia doesn’t need to invade the whole country for this.
Please go watch John Mearsheimer’s talk that after this conflict has gone from 4M to 17M views. It will reverse a lot of brainrot the media has fed to you and everyone around you.
I’m sure you could summarize the key points that address what tuxayo is saying rather then telling him “do your research, bro”
Read again.
Russian government has never said they want to take control of Ukraine. What they want is Ukraine to be a neutral country that doesn’t join NATO. They’ve literally been asking for that for the past 8 years.
Asking… or threating? It’s up to Ukraine what to do. They are a free country.
How anyone can be neutral if a neighbouring country is saying what to do?
Nothing says you’re a free country like having NATO overthrow your government in a coup.
Unlike Russia trying to kill Zelensky in an attack?
[citation needed]
No, their sovereignty was taken away by USA in 2014 Maidan coup d’etat.
By USA…? In short, it seems the people opposed the pro-Russian goverment and wanted a closer ties to EU instead. If that’s not something free people can do, what are the alternatives? If sovereignty is something to be worried about, why are you not criticizing Belarus or Russia? There people doesn’t even seem to have any options for opposing the government.
Go check Mearsheimer’s talk. Also, “Western liberal democracy” is an utter failure and has not particularly worked well anywhere yet.
And does invading neighbour countries with direct war work any better…? Using the identical logic based on what you said earlier, we could assume the sovereignty of Ukraine was taken away by Russia on 2010 :)
You are intentionally immoral and dishonest. Probably if your country gets invaded and colonised for a couple centuries, that will start putting some sense into Westerners like you. Mine was, and now another has indirect proxy colonisation.
Oh, our country has a long history about those events. I’m not trying to be immoral or dishonest, or even rude. Just pointing out that there are more than one side to the story.