Don’t know if this goes here or in /AskLemmy, but just wanted to know the best FOSS social networks, why are there so good? What would be the propietary equivalent?
That’s a fair point but I think it’s important to create some clear distinctions here in how this these software projects are analyzed and compared.
lemmy.ml is a left leaning community. There is nothing about lemmy itself, it’s design or implementation that make it left leaning inherently. If a right winger wanted to start a lemmy instance they could.
hmmm, good idea.
a libertarian instance might be nice. I dislike left and right equally. Both are too demanding and intrusive. i’ll let the right do thier own thing without me.
less censorship. less “that’s not okay here”. less throwing around of sentences or words that are meant to silence you (as though by silencing you, that changes you!).
Smacking people over the head with your “truth” works for some, but makes enemies of others. Libertarians usually don’t do that. They discuss things and each of us learns or understands better - even if we don’t change our minds, we don’t shut down conversation and can become more tolerant because now we understand how the other feels or thinks without the drama of name-calling, crying/shouting, shunning/shame…those are manipulative tactics that insult one’s intelligence.
There has been a feeling on most social media that what I say is being logged to be used against me for the cancel-culture to use and/or that I cannot speak freely. I’ve almost given up on social media…or, on humans.
Lemmy.ml isn’t so far left that I cannot handle it, but I really like open dialogue and think I am open-minded enough to learn from it - if it is presented in a logical, precise, timely (blunt, short) manner.
I think there’s a difference between censorship and safe spaces if there are codes of conduct and everyone knows what they’re signing up for. With the current dominance of capitalism, neoliberalism, and the rising threat of the far right, I have no desire to spend my time online in areas where that’s merely reflected and regurgitated. In fact, the only reason I joined Lemmy was because I understood it to be leftist or anarchist friendly and I’m really utterly sick and tired of seeing FOSS forums infested with intolerance and hate speech. So the idea of a space where people can just ignore pronouns, or use transphobic, sexist, racist, ableist, antisemitic, Islamophobic language because to stop them is labeled “cancel culture” is quite abhorrent to me, though there are loads of such places online already existing and thriving. Telegram is full of white supremacist and bigoted channels and groups and the far right flow freely through corporate media, so if I can just for once not have to deal with that shit, that’d be nice. (Thanks Lemmy, keep up the good work)
I’ve never seen a FOSS forum with any hate speech - no even on ruqqus, which had loads of jerks.
I do not like religion at all, because I am an atheist,female, and love animals and freedom: so I think they offend me more than vice-versa. If i went around saying I was in a group that revolted around a book that advocated violence, lying, stealing/invading, murder, rape, slavery, pedaphelia, and sexism (for fun, lets pretend its a rightwing book), i bet people would hate me. Why is it okay under the umbrella of religion? because its old? Is it only Jews and Islamists who are protected?
I recently saw a video of a small segment of Hindus drinking cow piss for their health. If I drank cow piss (or my own piss) in public like they did, would I be excused without using religion as an excuse? Who says who is excused and why? Who is the arbiter of truth and justice? In some nonAbrahamic relgions, animals are still sacrificed in public. Are those religions exempt from your scrutiny, because they are a religion? And, how old does a religion have to be to be beyond criticism? Is Scientology too young?
You want your own safe space, but I bet you think a man built like a linebacker should be able to use the ladies room as long as he is dressed like a female. But, wait - some women dress like men, so that gets confusing. Sometimes I dress like a man. Do I get to use the men’s room when i am dressed like a man when there is a mile-long line to the women’s room? Who gets to jedge whether my clothes are male enough, though? Must my hair also be male? But, what if I am gender-fluid and want to keep my hair longer for tomorrow when i’ll be female again? Some biological men wear their hair long, though, and wear earrings. So, where is the rule book that designates all of this?
That’s a fair point but I think it’s important to create some clear distinctions here in how this these software projects are analyzed and compared.
lemmy.ml is a left leaning community. There is nothing about lemmy itself, it’s design or implementation that make it left leaning inherently. If a right winger wanted to start a lemmy instance they could.
hmmm, good idea. a libertarian instance might be nice. I dislike left and right equally. Both are too demanding and intrusive. i’ll let the right do thier own thing without me.
What would distinguish a libertarian instance from lemmy.ml in your opinion?
less censorship. less “that’s not okay here”. less throwing around of sentences or words that are meant to silence you (as though by silencing you, that changes you!). Smacking people over the head with your “truth” works for some, but makes enemies of others. Libertarians usually don’t do that. They discuss things and each of us learns or understands better - even if we don’t change our minds, we don’t shut down conversation and can become more tolerant because now we understand how the other feels or thinks without the drama of name-calling, crying/shouting, shunning/shame…those are manipulative tactics that insult one’s intelligence. There has been a feeling on most social media that what I say is being logged to be used against me for the cancel-culture to use and/or that I cannot speak freely. I’ve almost given up on social media…or, on humans. Lemmy.ml isn’t so far left that I cannot handle it, but I really like open dialogue and think I am open-minded enough to learn from it - if it is presented in a logical, precise, timely (blunt, short) manner.
I think there’s a difference between censorship and safe spaces if there are codes of conduct and everyone knows what they’re signing up for. With the current dominance of capitalism, neoliberalism, and the rising threat of the far right, I have no desire to spend my time online in areas where that’s merely reflected and regurgitated. In fact, the only reason I joined Lemmy was because I understood it to be leftist or anarchist friendly and I’m really utterly sick and tired of seeing FOSS forums infested with intolerance and hate speech. So the idea of a space where people can just ignore pronouns, or use transphobic, sexist, racist, ableist, antisemitic, Islamophobic language because to stop them is labeled “cancel culture” is quite abhorrent to me, though there are loads of such places online already existing and thriving. Telegram is full of white supremacist and bigoted channels and groups and the far right flow freely through corporate media, so if I can just for once not have to deal with that shit, that’d be nice. (Thanks Lemmy, keep up the good work)
I’ve never seen a FOSS forum with any hate speech - no even on ruqqus, which had loads of jerks.
I do not like religion at all, because I am an atheist,female, and love animals and freedom: so I think they offend me more than vice-versa. If i went around saying I was in a group that revolted around a book that advocated violence, lying, stealing/invading, murder, rape, slavery, pedaphelia, and sexism (for fun, lets pretend its a rightwing book), i bet people would hate me. Why is it okay under the umbrella of religion? because its old? Is it only Jews and Islamists who are protected?
I recently saw a video of a small segment of Hindus drinking cow piss for their health. If I drank cow piss (or my own piss) in public like they did, would I be excused without using religion as an excuse? Who says who is excused and why? Who is the arbiter of truth and justice? In some nonAbrahamic relgions, animals are still sacrificed in public. Are those religions exempt from your scrutiny, because they are a religion? And, how old does a religion have to be to be beyond criticism? Is Scientology too young?
You want your own safe space, but I bet you think a man built like a linebacker should be able to use the ladies room as long as he is dressed like a female. But, wait - some women dress like men, so that gets confusing. Sometimes I dress like a man. Do I get to use the men’s room when i am dressed like a man when there is a mile-long line to the women’s room? Who gets to jedge whether my clothes are male enough, though? Must my hair also be male? But, what if I am gender-fluid and want to keep my hair longer for tomorrow when i’ll be female again? Some biological men wear their hair long, though, and wear earrings. So, where is the rule book that designates all of this?
Do you see my point?