I don’t feel very sorry for the imperial core for getting inflation. Obviously poor people suffer the most, but up until recently that’s all who anything has ever affected. Now the commoner is being affected. It seems to me regular people in the imperial core have been the most passive slaves in history. They, and I could include myself at times, have been such comfortable slaves that they don’t really care what happens in the world. Not everyone obviously. It’s very much a NIMBY kind of attitude. But as soon as the consequences of imperialist military adventurism knocks on their door in the form of the Russian-Ukraine conflict, everyone freaks out. It turns into a both sides argument.
To me, from a global south country, I say good riddance. People have often wondered what it will take for the west to rise up. I say, nows the time. If Russia has proven anything is that the west is full of shit and that they can be challenged. Much of the west is so full of racist, xenophobic, lumpen proles reactionary, colonialist and imperial leeches. It’s like, damn, something that happens in the world is actually affecting you? So sad. Cry me a river. Welcome to the club of what life is like for everyone else. Maybe now you’ll wake the fuck up and do something to get rid of those golden chains of unbridled consumerism you have so happily worn for so long.
Maybe the white-supremacist ideology of the west will crumble once Russia has a victory in Ukraine. For we all know, if anyone cared ab Ukrainian lives, the west would’ve surrendered or entered negotiations months, if not years ago. No, Russia is not some sort of ally, anti-imperialist or even socialist. Maybe their govt is kind of a joke. It will not be socialist, at least under putin. But I don’t really care at this point. The west needs to humble itself. Overall, it’s good for communists worldwide to know their resistance can prevail! Especially now that the west has shown it’s true colors.
Tl;dr I’m glad Russia is winning. The west’s racist ideology is crumbling. This probable victory helps show social movements can resist and overcome western aggression. The west can’t even beat their own pariah.
I feel shitty for thinking like this, but I can’t help but feel justified…? maybe I’m just a big ol’ callous asshole. Maybe it’s both.
There are no good sides in this war. One side is NATO, other side is a capitalist dictator. Both sides are full of Nazis. No matter who wins, the proletariat loses. NO WAR BUT THE CLASS WAR YOU DAMN REVISIONISTS!
I get proles suffer here. I’ll say this to you too. Maybe I’m not supporting a Russian victory from a communist perspective. But I do think the unfolding fuel, inflation and food crisis the west is facing can bring an important opportunity for communists everywhere 🌍. Or shouldn’t communists be on the lookout and anticipate these kinds of opportunities? The west is weakening. Tactically, this is the moment to take out it’s knees. We can miss it.
By acting. Who am I to speak on the how? We all live in specific situations. We have Mao, we have Lenin, we have uncle Ho as guides. I think any sort of community creation without coyness or fanaticism will help us move progressively toward our goals. Build a socialism that materially benefits your community. I can’t say I know any further steps.
Support to the independent regions for breaking away from a Nazi state that slaughters them for being ethnically Russian and not respecting their sovereignty.
I’m not going to praise or offer support for putin as a fucking capitalist power but I’m not going to pretend I don’t blame NATO for kick starting this entire chain of events.
As another commenter said, it’s weird to support a country you aren’t from or live in. Do I understand why Russia have done what they’ve done? Yes I guess because more NATO imperialism and the suffocation of their borders by a intentionally sly and proactive westoid collective. Do I agree or support Putin and his government? No lol wtf I’m a communist.
Anti NATO all the way but I’m not going to naively pretend Putin is some lefty adjacent principled capitalist.
The victims here are the proletariat of Ukraine and the proletariat of Russia who lost jobs due to scummy and callous western sanctions.
I get peoples passion for hating NATO, I do because I’m the same but if there’s one stupid meme I could use to sum up some of the ML support for Putin it’s “siding with homophobic capitalists to own the libs”. I find that a bit cringe.
Have you seen MLs actually being pro-Putin? I’ve only seen critical support for Russia in this particular conflict and in the current geopolitical climate (its important relationship with China, its support for some anti-imperialist struggles, etc.)
But to be fair as I think about it, I think a lot of it becomes conflated with what is russian critical support vs simping for putin becomes blurred in memes and jokes etc in the same way that I’ve got no issue with russia and sympathise and support them stomping out nazism and pushing back against NATO yet I myself have conflated that with Putin several times and probably not articulated myself correctly.
Makes sense. Putin and other Bourgeois Bastards™ surely have some personal interests here beyond Russia’s stated goals and they’re not actually anti-imperialist, but NATO is clearly much worse than the current Russian government
Yeah I think that’s the nuance I subscribe to that I failed to articulate. Do I think Putin has the best interests of others at heart? No lol, but it would be an unfair characterisation for me to equate putin and say biden when frankly there’s no competition when it comes to countries destabilised, children bombed and finance capital exported by the US.
I guess I’m not supporting Russia as a communist. I’m supporting Russia as someone who is sick of white white supremacist geopolitical hubris of the west.
That I can totally appreciate, it’s not even Russia that are the issue for me. Russia are a country with a based history that were illegally sold to corrupt capitalist pigs, the proletariat I’m in full support off. Its just when people simp for putin specifically it always feel a bit weird to me.
There are no good sides in this war. One side is NATO, other side is a capitalist dictator. Both sides are full of Nazis. No matter who wins, the proletariat loses. NO WAR BUT THE CLASS WAR YOU DAMN REVISIONISTS!
I get proles suffer here. I’ll say this to you too. Maybe I’m not supporting a Russian victory from a communist perspective. But I do think the unfolding fuel, inflation and food crisis the west is facing can bring an important opportunity for communists everywhere 🌍. Or shouldn’t communists be on the lookout and anticipate these kinds of opportunities? The west is weakening. Tactically, this is the moment to take out it’s knees. We can miss it.
How do you propose to do this? The left isn’t organized in any significant way.
By acting. Who am I to speak on the how? We all live in specific situations. We have Mao, we have Lenin, we have uncle Ho as guides. I think any sort of community creation without coyness or fanaticism will help us move progressively toward our goals. Build a socialism that materially benefits your community. I can’t say I know any further steps.
Yep.
Support to the independent regions for breaking away from a Nazi state that slaughters them for being ethnically Russian and not respecting their sovereignty.
I’m not going to praise or offer support for putin as a fucking capitalist power but I’m not going to pretend I don’t blame NATO for kick starting this entire chain of events.
As another commenter said, it’s weird to support a country you aren’t from or live in. Do I understand why Russia have done what they’ve done? Yes I guess because more NATO imperialism and the suffocation of their borders by a intentionally sly and proactive westoid collective. Do I agree or support Putin and his government? No lol wtf I’m a communist.
Anti NATO all the way but I’m not going to naively pretend Putin is some lefty adjacent principled capitalist.
The victims here are the proletariat of Ukraine and the proletariat of Russia who lost jobs due to scummy and callous western sanctions.
I get peoples passion for hating NATO, I do because I’m the same but if there’s one stupid meme I could use to sum up some of the ML support for Putin it’s “siding with homophobic capitalists to own the libs”. I find that a bit cringe.
Have you seen MLs actually being pro-Putin? I’ve only seen critical support for Russia in this particular conflict and in the current geopolitical climate (its important relationship with China, its support for some anti-imperialist struggles, etc.)
Yep.
But to be fair as I think about it, I think a lot of it becomes conflated with what is russian critical support vs simping for putin becomes blurred in memes and jokes etc in the same way that I’ve got no issue with russia and sympathise and support them stomping out nazism and pushing back against NATO yet I myself have conflated that with Putin several times and probably not articulated myself correctly.
Makes sense. Putin and other Bourgeois Bastards™ surely have some personal interests here beyond Russia’s stated goals and they’re not actually anti-imperialist, but NATO is clearly much worse than the current Russian government
Yeah I think that’s the nuance I subscribe to that I failed to articulate. Do I think Putin has the best interests of others at heart? No lol, but it would be an unfair characterisation for me to equate putin and say biden when frankly there’s no competition when it comes to countries destabilised, children bombed and finance capital exported by the US.
Papa Joseph 🥰
I guess I’m not supporting Russia as a communist. I’m supporting Russia as someone who is sick of white white supremacist geopolitical hubris of the west.
That I can totally appreciate, it’s not even Russia that are the issue for me. Russia are a country with a based history that were illegally sold to corrupt capitalist pigs, the proletariat I’m in full support off. Its just when people simp for putin specifically it always feel a bit weird to me.