Why Vladimir Putin has already lost this war | Yuval Noah Harari
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The Russians may yet conquer Ukraine. But Ukrainians have shown that they will not let them hold it, says historian and author Yuval Noah Harari

That is what USA has forcing, using Ukrainian people as the main losers / victims. Like many times before, the geopolitical game has used its sacrificial lamb, and like many times it has been the common people.

Russia has not started this game. It has been forced by the long term planned scenario where Russia has only a bad option or a worse option to choose.

That is what USA has forcing, using Ukrainian people as the main losers / victims.

I’m sorry, but that’s bullshit. Russia is flat out invading and the bulk of the Ukrainian people are in opposition. You can’t keep leaving this at the feet of the USA and other Western powers. The national right of self determination of Ukraine has spoken, and it has spoken against Russia. Now that it’s being invading, it’s speaking against Russia strongly and with Molotov cocktails.

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That’s a simple relate.

Ukraine has right to self-determination, but Donbass not.

Russia has not the right to make a war, but Ukraine has (against his own people, at Donbass), and USA has too(Iraq, Syria, Vietnam, etc.).

Ukraine can have NATO bases, but Cuba can not have soviet bases?

The Ukrainian war is unacceptable, but Yemen war is OK.

USA Empire has forced this war, using Ukraine as its sacrificial lamb.

Putin is not worse than Biden. And not better than him. Russia is not worse than the USA, and not better. Just power games where the common people loose, on both sides.

Believe in god vs bad speech is just believing in all this bull shit ;-) And going happy to wars where, at last, current people lose their children and their present.

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Russia has only a bad option or a worse option to choose.

What are those bad and worse options?

Allowing free elections, free press and not killing your political opponents? Obeying term laws and letting go of power once your term is over? That would’ve removed Putin from power 10 years ago.

Not discriminating against minorities, sexual and otherwise? This doesn’t matter the power plays at all, but is actually one of the key points Putin made in his speeches against the west. He hates “degenerates” and thinks the west is deliberately spreading that.

Perhaps the bad option would be to not attack a neighboring country with the explicit goal of killing a jew and his family?

Letting their partners leave them if they abuse them?

Yeah, such horrible options they have.

We are not talking about “all things Russia could do better”. Because people are not talking about, for example, all things USA could do better, like not support Yemen war, Syrian war, Libyan war, Somalian war, Israel civil genocides, Iraq war, Afghanistan war, etc.

We are talking about geopolitics. The real reasons. Not the moral reasons that people think (really??) their governments attend.

For Russia:

  1. Bad option: Ukraine invasion, USA Empire sanctions and punishment actions. Finally, Ukraine will be a demilitarized state “supervised” by Russia.

  2. Worse option: Ukraine become a NATO member, USA military bases and army there (do you remember about Russian base in Cuba, and the crazy risk of a nuclear war in the sixties? ), Donbass open war but from a NATO member…

Please, before talk about the Russian evilness, just think about similar actions of USA empire and how the free ( lol ) world has reacted to them ;-)

It’s not a good vs bad guys fight. It’s about geostrategic and world resources’ domination.

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It’s not a good vs bad guys fight. It’s about geostrategic and world resources’ domination.

Yep. In a time when the world should be uniting against climate change[1], the nation whose 4 largest exports are fossil fuels, and who has done nothing to improve that situation, decides to lash out. I mean we were losing that fight already, but now?

There actually is evil in this equation here. In comparison, the good (not perfect, but that was never required) guys are actually working to solve this problem.

[1] https://www.ipcc.ch/assessment-report/ar6/#:~:text=The IPCC is now in,to its latest Methodology Report.

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