cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/8276

I can find linux@lemmy.ml, but why can I not see jellyfin@lemmy.ml?

I put the URL in as: https://beehaw.org/c/jellyfin@lemmy.ml

I put the linux URL in as: https://beehaw.org/c/linux@lemmy.ml

Linux URL works, Jellyfin gives a 404 error. I’m new here, so is it something I’m missing?

Salamander
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Now you should be able to: https://beehaw.org/c/jellyfin@lemmy.ml

It has to be fetched before you can access the community via the beehaw url. I fetched it from your instance by pasting the original url into the search box.

Follow-up: Are there plans to make this process automatic? I can’t find a relevant open issue in the main repository.

I think the intent is to not excessively duplicate content to conserve server resources, since when displaying any external federated content, it’s being loaded from the local copy on your home instance, not the originating instance (that’s simply how ActivityPub works, and I imagine it’s the only practical way to ensure that pages on your instance don’t hang if an external instance goes down or is just slow in general). There are three main problems with everything being updated live the instant the content was generated. It would result in a pretty sizeable amount of inter-instance traffic constantly as the network of instances all scramble to update each other, which would strain the server’s processing power and also use up network bandwidth, both of which could have been spent serving content to users instead of other servers. I imagine there is also concern with when an instance federates with another one for the first time, it would cause a massive burst of traffic affecting the performance of both sites if they synced their entire datasets all at once. Finally, having to store potentially a majority of the Lemmy network’s content on your server can easily get expensive as the network grows and more content is generated. All of these could potentially raise the barrier of entry to hosting a Lemmy instance pretty dramatically, in the form of server and bandwidth costs.

Though, I agree that the current implementation is not ideal and does get annoying. It also has the effect of preventing people from discovering new communities on other instances. Definitely still needs to be worked out as development continues. If you have an idea as to how this could be addressed or simply want to talk about it, I encourage you to make an issue on the GitHub page or in communities discussing Lemmy development!

@nutomic@lemmy.ml, @dessalines@lemmy.ml, I’d love for you to weigh in on this!

Dessalines
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I don’t think we’d want to automate subscribing to all an instance’s communities as soon as you connect to one. That would be some really aggressive fetching of data that no one explicitly asked for.

I don’t see how we could make it much easier than it is: paste a federated community URL you want to subscribe to in the search bar, then click subscribe.

I was more thinking it could limit discovery of new federated communities. I don’t know about anyone else, but a big way I discover communities both here and on Reddit is through the front page, cross posts, and sometimes even user profiles.

Is there a way for an instance to only fetch a list of federated communities? I understand that automatically fetching all content from all linked instances would overload server resources. Although I wish federated communities could be listed in the Communities page without necessarily fetching their content.

Discovering federated communities could be smoother and more intuitive, as this user recently expressed. It could be also less time-consuming, since the current method usually requires visiting every linked instance first.

Dessalines
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It might be possible to have this list on joinlemmy.

I’ve created an issue for this here: https://yerbamate.ml/LemmyNet/lemmy-stats-crawler/issues/7

Thank you!

Thank you!

@Seldon@beehaw.org
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Thanks for the timely work! I’m not sure if it’s the same issue, but arriving on the beehaw.org/c/jellyfin@lemmy.ml for me shows the community, but this is what it displays on the side:

I think the amount of users speak for itself. Also, no upvotes or comments are apparent in any post. I hope this helps.

@socialiststudent@lemmy.eus
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Try not being a total f@got

What do you gain by saying that?

What do you gain by saying that?

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