Zelenskiy says parties such as Viktor Medvedchuk’s Opposition Platform for Life are ‘aimed at division or collusion’

While the parties that Zelensky banned were not all left wing (opposition platform for example was a coalition of parties across the spectrum), they were not pro-Russia either. These parties have all condemned the invasion. They were called pro-Russia because they wanted to have better relationship with Russia out of pragmatism and secure the rights of Russian speaking minorities in Ukraine. Zelensky was also elected to do the same. It is a centrist position. So now Ukraine only has far right parties.

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Where did you find these details?

You can read about the parties and their platforms on wikipedia. For example, For Life is one of the banned parties that’s described as pro-Russian that publicly denounced the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine on 8 March 2022.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_Platform_—_For_Life

Where is the evidence that every one of these parties has links to Russia? The closest you get in this article comes from an unsourced claim from British intelligence (sus) which doesn’t even claim any collusion on behalf of the party itself.

Yikes, that’s not cool.

I mean, they’re actively fighting a war against Russia. Seems fair enough.

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Interestingly only in effect during the martial law, an apparent move to prevent a forced puppet government (hence severing all links to Russia). Strikes as a very anti-democratic move, but hard to believe any of this would remain in effect for long post war.

Ah yes because famously when government grabs power under some pretex they immediately relinquish it when the pretext no longer applies. Just like all the powers US government granted itself during the war on terror were scrapped.

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Relinquishing seems obvious, yes, especially considering their ambition on joining the EU.

There is no realistic chance of Ukraine joining the EU and everyone knows that.

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Not in the near future.

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It’s not going to happen, that’s the reality. Frankly, the way things are going, I’m not expecting EU to be around too much longer either.

Your expectations will not be fulfilled. Don’t be too disappointed!

Then you are easy to please.
Living in the EU I can assure you, it is “still around”.

around for how long is the question

Pretty short, right?
Whilst your “expectations are already being fulfilled”, the EU is still around.

My expectations are that the economic crisis will drive civil unrest in EU bloc that will ultimately cause countries to leave it due to inherent disagreements. EU already fucked over countries like Greece during the 2008 crash, and we can expect more of the same during this crash.

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It’s pretty irrational to take the expectation of future events as fulfilled, don’t you think?

What’s irrational is to ignore what’s happening in front of your eyes. Dissolution of EU is a process that’s going to take years to come to fruition. However, the seeds of this process have already been planted.

When will America get around to this?

America is way ahead of the game where there are two parties with practically identical agenda and all the other parties are effectively shut out.

A truly patriotic party is beholden to local oligarchs (e.g. billionaires) instead of foreign oligarchs

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This is a matter of math and political mechanics, not statutory or constitutional law. The framers of the US Constitution mostly didn’t even want parties to form, but parties formed almost instantly regardless. Then the reliance on single ballot plurality voting (first past the post) led to two parties. Even if a party has significant internal fractures like you find in both the Democratic and Republican parties, an equilibrium of two roughly equally sized parties is held because any other substantial party is pressured into a merger to produce an electoral majority. There have been several iterations of the two party system and every time it produced that equilibrium again.

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They did, many times. They were called red scares / mccarthyism, which ruined thousands of lives.

You can’t ban pro-Russia parties in the US when the only pro-Russia party in the US has a viable minority in Congress and a majority in the Supreme Court.

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