I ditched Windows BTW.

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Would be nice if EU did same.

It makes a lot of sense :

  • the tech trade dispute is forcing China to design and manufacture its own processors.
  • open source operating systems are already working on RISC-V architecture, and apps are being ported.

ergo : US tech’s proprietary systems - X86 and Micro$oft - are set to be excluded from 20% of the world’s tech marketplace.

Not only that : China is a big manufacturer of the world’s electronics… they’ll no doubt start exporting hardware with open source software too.

Plus there are a lot of concerns about all the information Micro$oft mines from its OS : it’s not suitable for government use afaic.

Interesting to know that. Every OS has its downsides tbh, the Chinese one is no exception. China is notorious for its censorship already and now it’s planning to develop its Linux-based OS? Would it slip free of Zhongnanhai’s hands?

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I wonder if this will endanger the Maoist and Marxist opposition in China if it’s widely implemented.

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Of course there’s nothing stopping them from developing their own OS - whether based on Linux or something else. I’d say though, whatever they use, it’s more likely to be open source than not.

But china certainly wants to control what’s running on their systems.

I mean, yes, that’s why ditching Microsoft and going Linux is the right move, they can create their own distribution and have complete control.

it would be both easier and more practical for them to use linux, if they wish to maintain competition on global market for software development. if they instead make their very own operative system, there would be compatibility issues and a lack of developers available to participate in the global market.

A downside would be the intense censorship enacted by Beijing, though.

There is ZERO proof that China does censorship to its products exported out of its country. Lithuanian military (puppet of Anglosphere) made a hoax piece that got annihilated upon a look at proofs they presented.

China also was claimed to censor Winnie the Pooh, but you can search it on Baidu freely. Same goes for Mesut Ozil, the footballer. So, what is this evil bad censorship you speak of? Or is it censorship that somewhat makes sense, for example banning ISIS/ETIM terrorist propaganda, unlike how USA utilises The Atlantic Council for actual global censorship ignored by le freedom people?

Basically everything filtered by the Great Firewall. And for example Peng Shuai, Liu Xiaobo, Tiananmen, Hong Kong protesters, and so on, and so on.

Tiananmen? You mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzeNAHEhU ? Or this?

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Hong Kong protestors? You mean those CIA/NED funded riots where Ted Cruz and Nancy Pelosi went to cheer rioter leaders? The rioters that bricked a grandpa to death, and burned and stabbed many people? The one in which HK police did not kill a single rioter?

Liu Xiaobo? You mean the one who, just like Henry Kissinger, got Nobel Peace Prize as a trophy, just for being anti CPC? Sounds a bit edgy to me. I am sure that you would not want to disappoint 95% citizens that support their government, according to Harvard’s long term study. Does not sound like a protestor that is protesting for his people.

About Peng Shuai, this will break it down for you. Western media machinery is known to fabricate stories and testimonies, just like North Korean ones. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/11/new-york-times-invents-sexual-assault-case-to-blame-china.html

Remember the testimonies of that credible Yeomin Park, who takes $15-40K per fake podium speech? That stuff happens a lot.

Someone reported this for “gore”, would be good if you could put an explicit warning.

Gore? Let me put one. But that is a little odd…

2022 will finally be the year of Linux on the desktop :)

This should be a universal decisions. A foreign company should not have been allowed to siphon tax money for decades on a global scale. Especially considering a government funding is otherwise used in research and production that benefits us all. That most of us still let this happen in our countries is the greatest modern scam. Well that, along with the consumer computer windows tax, what happened with directx misinformation campaign, IE, etc. How governments didn’t distance themselves from microsoft already is a serious question. Especially considering how so many institutes are now stuck with proprietary windows XP exclusive software and unable to update. The security risk is absurd.

Hell yeah, the people’s republic should never rely on closed-source software, especially Western

Fantastic decision

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Completely regardless of your stance on China, this is a good thing. Less money and grasp for Microsoft means more development power for free systems, and perhaps even a more contested market over here if it works in China.

Let’s be level for a minute: Western capitalists constantly copy the pioneer ideas of Chinese capitalists. They view China as testing grounds.

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And it’s a good thing for them, being less reliant on a foreign nation for their infrastructure is a good move. It doesn’t stop them from being pissed off when said foreign nations decide to avoid Huawei for their telecom infra.

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Great opportunity for linux!

This could bring an influx of new users to Linux, which would be a boost for the open source operating system, though it’s likely that any distro the Chinese government uses would be heavily modified and restricted.

On paper, this could be good news for Linux. However, any OS the Chinese government uses will likely be heavily regulated and censored, which is contrary to what the Linux and open source communities stand for.

Seems like the tangible benefits for the linux and open source community expected from that might be somewhat limited. Maybe some gov workers will switch to linux privately and maybe the gov might end up funding some projects, but they probably won’t contribute to the open source community directly.

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I think more than a “practical” advantage over Windows, Linux will improve his reputation. At least I hope that, rn it’s impossible for an average person to prefer Linux over Windows or other OSes

I’m not so sure about that…

If CAS’s work on a desktop-power processor goes according to plan, the reality might well be that, over the next few years, Microsoft software simply won’t flash onto any new hardware avialable to buy.

There are already versions of Linux being used… My guess is - simply because they are the easy solution - they will be adopted.

One of the attractive things about open source software is that it can be audited… And if the people are not happy with one open source operating system, they can always flash an alternative.

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Bill gates has left the chat

Anyone familiar with Chinese politics + technology want to chime in on how likely various levels of Windows ditching is to happen?

EDIT: This is from February 2020. Have they made any progress yet?

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I look forward to seeing Deepin’s progress when it is adopted as standard in China.

Super based. Down with Big Tech. Marg bar Amrika. APLICAR EL LINUX

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windows to which linux distro?

It’s pretty ironic that a country known for oppressing people’s freedom to take advantage of an OS famous for spreading freedom. I suddenly feel like I built guns for serial killers.

I think you are talking about the global hegemon.

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