cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/40877
Email is inherently insecure. If you want or need secure communications, that’s what software like Briar, Matrix, or Signal (yes despite some drama).
Secure emails can always be done manually with PGP and will be a lot hardier than trusting an organization that gives away subscriber payments to Western-backed coup attempts and color revolutions.
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Right, so having to comply with swiss laws to log IP after the request by swiss authorities (otherwise the company is gonna be persecuted for it) and saying “We support activism” is all you need to step away from proton as a company. Ok, you do you, but i know for a fact i’m not using Signal which is a glorified SMS messenger and has literally same encryption to Proton, Matrix which is badly designed, and Briar (never heard of it). So how do i send job applications? How do i register to forums? Sorry having an email is good and convenient, if your intent is to break the law, please stop using widely known services. (Breaking the law doesn’t not inherently make you a villain, governments can be evil, however consequences happen people).
Protonmail has its place, but it is good to be careful about what you say in certain places. Chances are high that if you wrote some unpopular (for the times) opinion or admitted to an unpopular act that your kid or even grandkid might be more likely to also share those views. So, I’d say you are putting your progeny at risk by sloppily voicing opinions or acts.
whats so bad? the screenshot doesnt tell me whats so bad about protonmail. and the “market speak” is the same kind of marketing proton is known for, atleast since ive been using it, and as far as the posts suggests nothing related to the encryption at a technical level has changed.
“We support the us sponsored revolutions” is the bad part. Try and be a revolutionary in the us whilst using proton mail and see what happens.
source?
Already happened: https://lemmy.ml/post/79956
That would have been a better link than what was provided in this thread. This whole thread is ridiculously scatterbrained. Instead of a link, there’s a screenshot, be and a paragraph that is deeply unclear. If all email is not secure, what does that have to do with protonmail in particular or with their screenshot?
And what’s wrong with activist resistance in Hong Kong, Belarus and Myanmar? I don’t know much about the latter two, although a quick trip to the wiki suggests to me that political activism there is a good thing, not a bad thing. And I definitely feel that Hong Kong activism was a good thing and not a bad thing. And what do those have to do with Protonmail in particular, or with the U.S. in particular?
I’m not even saying it’s wrong, but for goodness sake, at least explain this argument or link to something that unpacks all these arguments because this is a complete mess. The post itself doesn’t make sense without additional explanation, and these cryptic one liner responses make things even more confusing.
Edit: I’m seeing this on lemmy.ml, but I guess since this was posted on lemmygrad.ml, it may make a degree of sense for those political positions to be taken for granted, although I don’t share them.
‘good’ and ‘bad’ are usually relative and open for debate. political ideas and judgements are best kept to certain times, places, and groups. Everyone has heard, i’d guess, that it is in bad taste to discuss religion or politics at a big family gathering table/dinner - such as Thanks Giving in America, as an example. I’ve seen my dad get into some uncomfortable debates at the dinner table with male relatives over 30 or 40 years old. I’d like to see more or even all businesses be neutral and simply ‘do right’ in their own dealings - be good to customers, staff, the environment, animals, etc. Start with a PERSONAL revolution and improve yourselves.
“Was slavery bad?”
“start with a PERSONAL resolution and improve yourself!”
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If it interferes with a person’s freedom, property, or life, then one is a victim and the other the criminal. There are many shades of gray; nothing is all black or all white (all or nothing).
I’d like for more people to be polite enough to not impose their views on others. If you live a great life and are a great person, I will look at what makes YOU different and try to emulate those wonderful traits. No need to slam your ideas in my face (or knock on my door with pamphlets). Too many people fool themselves that they know best.
Can you elaborate on the shades of gray when it comes to the issue of slavery being right or wrong?
It’s not all black and white, I feel like I know the negative parts but perhaps you can help me out by elaborating on the positive parts.
nice way to twist my words. how smart you must feel
Zero twisting of words whatsoever. You just haven’t fully thought through the implications of your own beliefs. When your beliefs are applied to slavery, they produce a position you don’t want to defend, and you claim it’s “twisting” your words.
The truth is you just haven’t thought this through.
I don’t recall ever saying or thinking slavery is okay. I may need to go back to see what the hell i wrote…but, am so used to people WANTING to read or hear or take things wrong that …its just too much trouble. I am no drama queen.