First of all, it doesnt matter which side you or I want to win. And you seem to be under the impression that the war started last week, which is wrong. The war started in 2014, after the u.s. coup in kiev. Lugansk and Donetsk didnt accept that illegal change of government, and were attacked with tanks. Russia has since then demanded u.s. and nato to stand out of ukraine, but were ignored. Ukraine was about to start another offensive on Donbass, and threatened to acquire nuclear weapons (they still have know-how from soviet times).
In general you seem to make a lot of assumptions about me, but know very little about the conflict itself.
That is not a bad point, but then the question is: how much should we allow a dictator to dictate what’s happening on the other side of their border? Hitler was allowed leeway several times, and every time he grew hungrier and then the whole world was on fire.
Plus there’s the fact that Ukraine (=its democratically chosen leaders) itself did not want to be part of Russia. Should they have been forced to be by the international community? What kind of a standard does that set? The US did similar things in South America, Iran. They were allowed to do that due to similar reasons as Russia is allowed to do what it’s doing now, but in principle we can probably agree that it was an evil thing to do, right? And that they should have been stopped if that had been possible.
Is your knowledge of history really so limited that the only comparison you know is hitler? Crimea did vote for joining Russia, and Donbass republics would vote the same way. But obviously weateen propaganda would never acknowledge that.
First of all, it doesnt matter which side you or I want to win. And you seem to be under the impression that the war started last week, which is wrong. The war started in 2014, after the u.s. coup in kiev. Lugansk and Donetsk didnt accept that illegal change of government, and were attacked with tanks. Russia has since then demanded u.s. and nato to stand out of ukraine, but were ignored. Ukraine was about to start another offensive on Donbass, and threatened to acquire nuclear weapons (they still have know-how from soviet times).
In general you seem to make a lot of assumptions about me, but know very little about the conflict itself.
Why exactly should their demands be obeyed? They are totally unreasonble.
Because that was the only way to avoid war.
That is not a bad point, but then the question is: how much should we allow a dictator to dictate what’s happening on the other side of their border? Hitler was allowed leeway several times, and every time he grew hungrier and then the whole world was on fire.
Plus there’s the fact that Ukraine (=its democratically chosen leaders) itself did not want to be part of Russia. Should they have been forced to be by the international community? What kind of a standard does that set? The US did similar things in South America, Iran. They were allowed to do that due to similar reasons as Russia is allowed to do what it’s doing now, but in principle we can probably agree that it was an evil thing to do, right? And that they should have been stopped if that had been possible.
Is your knowledge of history really so limited that the only comparison you know is hitler? Crimea did vote for joining Russia, and Donbass republics would vote the same way. But obviously weateen propaganda would never acknowledge that.